Victory Formation

All Time Cowboys Defense: Who Made the Cut? Plus Day 1 in pads recap...

Victory Formation

In this episode of the "Victory Formation Podcast," Prescott and Eddie dive into the latest updates from the Dallas Cowboys' training camp. Prescott kicks things off, playfully dubbing Eddie as "everybody's favorite Eddie after Eddie Murphy." They chat about Eddie Murphy's classic films before shifting gears to football. They discuss standout performances, like rookie cornerback Caelen Carson, and share their thoughts on players returning from injury. The duo also reminisces about legendary Cowboys defensive players and coaches, blending humor, nostalgia, and insightful analysis. We discuss who our all-time Cowboys Defense would be and throw in special teams as an added bonus. It’s a fun, engaging episode for any Cowboys fan! Fresh out of the oven. Come get yourself a slice.
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Podcast Introduction (00:00:39)
Prescott introduces the "Victory Formation Podcast" and Eddie, engaging the audience.
Eddie Murphy Discussion (00:00:51)
Eddie shares his thoughts on Eddie Murphy and nostalgic movie references.
Training Camp Updates (00:01:51)
Discussion on the first padded practice and player updates from training camp.
Player Performances (00:02:30)
Talk about specific players' performances and injuries affecting the team.
Rookie Highlights (00:03:14)
Highlights of rookie cornerback Kalyn Carson's impressive training camp performance.
Offensive Line Insights (00:04:50)
Discussion on the offensive line's performance and specific players making strides.
Quarterback Performance (00:09:04)
Analysis of Trey Lance's inconsistency and Dak Prescott's impressive physical condition.
Overall Team Assessment (00:15:10)
Prescott and Eddie assess the team's overall performance and readiness for the season.
All-Time Defensive Line Discussion (00:19:01)
Starting the discussion about an all-time defensive line, comparing key players.
Linebacker Choices (22:02)
Discussion on selecting linebackers, highlighting notable players like DeMarcus Ware and Shaun Lee.
Honorable Mentions (23:09)
Mention of Brady James and his inspiring story as an undersized linebacker.
Linebacker Draft Favorites (26:08)
Speakers share their favorite drafted linebackers and their impact on the team.
DBs Discussion (26:32)
Transition into discussing defensive backs, starting with Jalen Smith's high school performance.
Safety Choices (32:39)
Discussion on the best safeties, highlighting Darren Woodson and Roy Williams.
Roy Williams's Rule Change (33:47)
Explanation of how Roy Williams's playing style led to a rule change in the NFL.
Safety Drafting History (35:52)
Discussion on the Cowboys' struggles to draft impactful safeties over the years.
Current Camp Reports (38:59)
Updates on players in training camp and their performances.
Kickers Comparison (39:28)
Debate over the best Cowboys kicker, comparing Dan Bailey and others.
Punter Discussion (00:41:36)
Debate over punter choices, highlighting skills in coffin corner kicks and overall performance.
Coaching Discussion (00:43:51)
Conversation about coaching staff, mentioning past coaches and their impact on team performance.
Game Evolution and Strategy Changes (00:48:12)
Discussion on how game strategies have evolved, particularly in terms of blitzing and running plays.
Closing Remarks (00:50:54)
Final thoughts on family and love, encouraging listeners to embrace positivity and connection.

Intro 00:00:00  I come. Here we go, here I come. Here we go, here I come. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah. Koba blue. When I fall through a lot. Do not like us. How you're walking with a lion. Got me feeling like Michael. I've been on the way.

Intro 00:00:15  The team on my bad. Like a biker. Shawty wanna be with a star. But you lucky if I invite you. We can take it to the next spot. They yellin like Prescott. Everybody like there ain't no brakes, no rest stop. We tryna get your head chop
Intro 00:00:26  The whole club yelling everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody.

Prescott 00:00:39  Here we go, here we go. Victory Formation podcast season one, episode 28. I'm Prescott. That's your boy, Eddie. Everybody's favorite. Eddie after Eddie Murphy. Tell him how you feel, Eddie.

Eddie 00:00:51  But you don't think people like me more than Eddie Murphy? No, I don't even like Eddie.

Eddie 00:00:56  Gentlemen. What? What's up? Ladies? Welcome to the podcast. He.

Prescott 00:01:01  He raised me, man. Raw in that red leather jumpsuit. Whatever he wore.

Eddie 00:01:06  Delirious. Oh, yeah.

Prescott 00:01:07  The clubs. Oh, man. Beverly Hills cop. I watched a new one. It was pretty good. It was pretty nostalgic.

Eddie 00:01:15  I like that new one. Was pretty good because I had a lot of callbacks, callbacks to some of the old stuff, and I'm like, oh yeah, yeah.

Prescott 00:01:22  Like you had to have. You had to have watched the first one to really get a lot of the jokes in there. So kind of like a Deadpool and and a Wolverine. Yeah. They had watched all the Wolverines to get a lot of the jokes in there, but they did, right.

Eddie 00:01:37  I can't wait. I'm like.

Prescott 00:01:39  Hey, but you're real close to my favorite Eddie. Once, once he dies, you'll take over the the the title spot on there. All right, so, let's see what's going on.

Prescott 00:01:51  Training camp. Full swing. First day padded practice. That was a big step. And then a big step for, one player got removed from the pup. Yep.

Eddie 00:02:03  And one.

Prescott 00:02:04  Day, back on the field, he did a little light light work, but that's still good to know he's off the pup.

Eddie 00:02:09  Yeah, I saw him get a couple reps in there. I think they're just keeping him, like, just like all of us. Just. Just don't get hurt. Just just walk, cause. Cause everybody keep it like bubble wraps.

Prescott 00:02:23  The Sam William news broke my heart, man. I had such high hopes for him. Well, we don't need that again.

Eddie 00:02:29  I don't know, and wanna talk about that, but.

Prescott 00:02:30  I know.

Eddie 00:02:32  But as soon as I saw that, as soon as I saw the first thing hit his head. I said, oh, man, he was going to be. He's going to have such a big role, man.

Prescott 00:02:42  Such a huge role.

Prescott 00:02:43  Zimmer was going to use him a lot.

Eddie 00:02:46  But he rolled punches that type of sport. And yep, you know it's going to happen. next man up. Yep. Can happen quite a bit of of people anyway.

Prescott 00:02:58  So what I really think Dick saw was how it seemed like every defensive back was having a good camp, and he was like, man, forget this. It's time for me to get in here. Everybody, like, put me in, coach.

Eddie 00:03:13  So,

Prescott 00:03:14  I've been checking out any training camps, any of the videos on Twitter. You've been following the other stuff?

Eddie 00:03:18  Oh, yeah.

Prescott 00:03:19  Like who? Like anybody that looks good or does not look good.

Eddie 00:03:25  Yeah, quite a bit. we have, our, our corner that we, that we drafted is showing out. I mean, it definitely was getting those extended reps because Diggs was out, but he definitely took advantage of it.

Prescott 00:03:40  Kalyn Carson that's his name. Fifth round draft pick. I had him on my list, too.

Prescott 00:03:44  He's been balling. They said he has taken the Zimmer's defense. And one thing I like that Quinn was different with Quinn was a big multifaceted. Like he wants you to be able to play multiple positions move you around. The one thing with this guy, they haven't moved him into the slot at all. He's been a boundary corner every single route. They haven't moved him at all. Let him get really good at one thing. And and I like that.

Eddie 00:04:14  So I think that says that's his position. He's a big guy. But yeah he is.

Prescott 00:04:19  He's like a Xavier Rhodes I don't know if you remember him from the from the Vikings. He's like that with with how he's playing in his.

Eddie 00:04:28  They gave him a nickname. Right. What's his nickname?

Prescott 00:04:31  Oh, I didn't see that. Oh. Seat belt. Yeah. You're right, you're right on the game. Seat belt. I mean, you.

Eddie 00:04:36  Can't you can't have a nickname like that and not cover, right? I did see that nickname.

Prescott 00:04:39  You're right.

Eddie 00:04:41  a lot of the rookies, kind of, Tyler Guyton got, a he got some reps with the ones yesterday and today. He looked pretty good.

Prescott 00:04:50  he looked very good against Micah Parsons.

Eddie 00:04:54  you gotta I, I take that for what it's worth. Like. The one v ones are are. You know, Mike is going to dominate no matter what. Mike is going to dominate almost every lineman in in the NFL. Micah would definitely dominate this kid. But I think it was the first time with pads on. And, you know, I mean Micah didn't have a very good day to day anyway. I mean, he got punched in the face twice in the eye. Yeah, but doga.

Prescott 00:05:24  Tumor. And then the dog mysteriously got hurt. I think Micah kicked him in the shins or something, I don't know. Like when they had him stretching out. And that's how Guyton got a lot of the ones, because the dog was out and they were stretching him out on the sidelines.

Prescott 00:05:36  He might have just been sore, like it was minor stuff. It wasn't no big deal. Nobody reported him injured. They they just took a picture of him laying down with just with the trainer stretching them out. But they didn't have any word like any pool or torn or whatever. So yeah.

Eddie 00:05:48  I didn't hear. They should.

Prescott 00:05:49  Be good. Oh.

Eddie 00:05:51  there's I mean, our, receiving room is taken a step up. I mean, we got Brooks and and, what's the name? Or playing real good. Tolbert.

Prescott 00:06:02  Oh, yeah, I call it. I call him the law firm. The law firm of Jalen and Jalen.

Eddie 00:06:06  But but.

Prescott 00:06:07  Tolbert and Brooks.

Eddie 00:06:08  Is that one thing that people need to understand is there's kind of there's some other guys behind them that are hungry AF man.

Prescott 00:06:16  What's that guy with the hyphenated name?

Eddie 00:06:19  You talk about Tyron like Tyron Billy Tyron Bill. Yeah.

Prescott 00:06:24  And he has a hyphenated name. And they said he's been balling.

Eddie 00:06:28  Yeah he has been balling.

Eddie 00:06:29  He he he looks like I mean his name looks like he's straight out of like Arkansas right. Like it's straight from the farm. But him and I mean we got a bunch of other fans that were that are trying to make the team. Yeah. KD and his contract are going to be signed. We know that. I mean we heard about it yesterday. I mean what's the what's your boy's name? The Twitter savant.

Prescott 00:06:54  Oh, man. Pretty, pretty pretty. Ricky.

Eddie 00:06:56  Stevie J. What's the name?

Prescott 00:06:58  Pretty. We gotta believe him. Yes. It's pretty. Ricky, you gotta believe him. He breaks loose. I'm like.

Eddie 00:07:03  He he he put out his tweet. didn't really say too much differently than what some of the writers have already been saying, but we know that all the heavy hitters.

Prescott 00:07:11  Came out and be like, no one is reporting this. Jane Slater, Clarence Hill, all of them came like they came for him.

Eddie 00:07:18  Check it out. So I saw this one tweet that said, Calvin Watkins or Clarence Hill, Jane Slater.

Eddie 00:07:26  They all have to get the the thumbs up from Jerry like Jerry has to say. Go ahead. This other guy, it doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't. Yeah. Yeah he does.

Prescott 00:07:37  Yeah. He does not employed by him. Then he has special access. He can get revoked.

Eddie 00:07:41  So it could be you know, those other guys know something. They just can't. They're not able to say anything just yet. But.

Prescott 00:07:47  And and I thought that too. Yeah, I thought that too. Except, like, Clarence came straight out and said, I talked to both sides, and both sides said, we are not close at all. And so I'm talking about normally if they can't say.

Eddie 00:07:59  Like snake moan players.

Prescott 00:08:01  Like a yeah him the look.

Eddie 00:08:03  That dude.

Prescott 00:08:03  Is.

Eddie 00:08:04  Fucking he's so he gets so angry. He he blocked me on Twitter because I literally asked him one time I was like, well, like he he, retweeted something and I was like, why did you just retweet this into Intel instead of looking or reading into it before retweeting it? Yeah.

Eddie 00:08:24  And he just blocked me, right? Didn't even answer me, just like me. So I guess.

Prescott 00:08:29  That's one of the upsides of Twitter. You can do that.

Eddie 00:08:32  It seems a little bit.

Prescott 00:08:33  So, so, who's who's not looking good?

Eddie 00:08:41  I only really heard a couple. I've heard, Lance.

Prescott 00:08:44  I got three names.

Eddie 00:08:46  Lance isn't doing very well. I know that, yeah, he he was the first one.

Prescott 00:08:49  Like, he's the biggest name Trey Lance. And they said he's not doing well, which it's not like he's isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Eddie 00:08:55  It's just that yeah, he he's out there. He's he's making great throws here and there. But the some of the just the regular consistency.

Prescott 00:09:04  Yeah his consistency is not there.

Eddie 00:09:06  Well I mean there's you can have I I've always hated the those athletes like a receiver that would make the insane catches. But the regular simple stands. I could never stand that Right. So it seems like that's what's happened to Lance, right?

Prescott 00:09:22  Yeah.

Prescott 00:09:23  he's making great throws, but then missing simple throws. So it's like you gotta be consistent with it.

Eddie 00:09:28  I mean, him and maybe Micah. I haven't really heard too much about any negative. Yeah.

Prescott 00:09:33  And and I think people just expected him to just be dominating the Lance versus rush conversation. And he's not. So it's like a disappointment. He's not bad. He's just not as good as they expected him to be. For a former number two overall trade in a fourth round pick for him, you expect him to be put like pushing back. He's nowhere. Just to ease everyone's mind. There will be zero quarterback controversy on this team as long as Dak is healthy. Now, if he, you know, breaks a finger and on his throwing hand and he's throwing off that might be like oh let Lance get a play here. Not as long as Dak's healthy. There's zero controversy on this team.

Eddie 00:10:13  Not good there.

Prescott 00:10:15  Yeah. Oh, he'll be healthy man. You saw that one. He's like, oh.

Eddie 00:10:19  You're gonna come after you.

Prescott 00:10:20  I remember the first year that played, he was very chubby. He looked like a country boy. He was just solidly built. No muscle definition. This year he's cut up like he he was in the weight room. You can tell he was in the weight room.

Eddie 00:10:34  So I think he has something to prove this year.

Prescott 00:10:37  Does got that man. He's mad. He didn't get that. I'm telling you, he's looking back and like, you know what? Y'all never made Romo beg for a contract. So y'all gonna do me like this? I got you, I got you.

Eddie 00:10:47  He did see this. This this is the Romo hate that people get. Romo did have to wait for contracts Anthony Romo didn't get things to. do.

Prescott 00:10:56  But yeah, he did. You just showed up and they gave him bags and bags of money. That's what they did. Now they do. My boy Dak wrong. That's man man. That's how they do man. That's how they do.

Prescott 00:11:06  Watts boys from Louisiana that's.

Eddie 00:11:07  Been paid every single time right. Every single time that he needs to pay. He's been paid. It's never been. It's just what. And it's always been that way. Jerry's never said, I'm going to pay you on your time. Jerry's always said, I guess when I pay you.

Prescott 00:11:23  I guess it's because Dak's asking for 70 million a year. That's why. Maybe that's it. Pretty Ricky told me that. Yeah, pretty Ricky told me that. He said Dak is asking for 70 and that's to hold up.

Eddie 00:11:35  Who's the other guys that, that.

Prescott 00:11:37  I heard that right now if it was cut day and they Sean right would be cut. He's been terrible even though all the defensive backs have been great. He's been noticeably terrible and not not playing bad, just not as good as everybody thought, based off the hype is a baby. They said Hoffman is not giving up that slot. And and then Bibby wasn't getting the the shotgun snaps. You saw him working out with his mom, right? No, I mean, they had some some Twitter videos of his mom back there saying, here we go.

Prescott 00:12:09  And him practicing his shotgun snaps because he was messing up in practice. And so, so I mean, it's like rookie stuff.

Eddie 00:12:16  People that thought that he was going to step right in there. I mean, I was arguing the other day is somebody I was like, Hofmann is a beast.

Prescott 00:12:24  Yeah. He is.

Eddie 00:12:25  Hoffman.

Prescott 00:12:26  He played very well.

Eddie 00:12:27  At he should have played he should have played center for us last year. Yeah. And they everybody's is throwing a fit and b this. And that said, I love Baby Blue was my favorite pick of the draft.

Prescott 00:12:37  Me too.

Eddie 00:12:38  I don't I don't think that he's going to be ready to play center anytime soon. He's never played center in ever. Yeah, I think in college and never he never.

Prescott 00:12:49  If he was stepping in at guard. I think he would be a lot more comfortable and be performing a lot better. But he has two. He has a all All-Pro and the future All-Pro at both guard, so he's not getting at guard.

Prescott 00:13:01  His best bet is at center. And so I think.

Eddie 00:13:04  What I've heard was, no, not even in a pinch because like, right now, the the centers were, what's the name that I just mentioned and, the Hoffman and the kid from Oregon from last year are.

Prescott 00:13:23  What's that guy's name? Are I know that he's talking about. Yeah.

Eddie 00:13:30  We'll think about. I'll remember it, but he's the one that's running, second team centers. That's right. Now.

Prescott 00:13:38  Yeah. He's, because baby's been running third team, and that's. And that's what the the, the disappointment comes in at.

Eddie 00:13:44  Is a Bebe snapping to Trey Lance and Trey. Lance. It's during a phase. It's it's ugly over on that second field. That's what I've heard. I have actually there's no cameras over there so they don't.

Prescott 00:13:59  Yeah.

Eddie 00:13:59  According.

Prescott 00:14:03  Oh mad man. I like his name. I know I'm mad. What is his name? I'm trying to find it. Hoffman. The bass. TJ bass.

Prescott 00:14:17  That's it.

Eddie 00:14:18  But from what I've heard, was he was getting some second team reps and looking pretty good, too, because he was good.

Prescott 00:14:23  They were good at guard. Last year, bass and Hoffman, because it was one game when it didn't matter. And both of them got in because, Martin was hurt and, Tyler Smith was hurt. And Hoffman and Bass played guard.

Eddie 00:14:37  Hoffman played center for one game, and then he played guard on that. The Seattle game was a Cardinal game. One of them was the Cardinal game.

Prescott 00:14:46  And then this one was later in the season. I want to say it's the Seattle game where where they played guard. And it might have been the Giants. And it didn't hurt us at all. And they actually looked good.

Eddie 00:14:55  The game where we had lots of running yards.

Prescott 00:14:57  Yeah, we did and they played very well at guard. I remember that game. So overall, I'd say our team was looking on par for first padded practice at this point. Training camp.

Prescott 00:15:10  Nobody's like really struggling. Everybody's just doing regular type struggling stuff. And there's a.

Eddie 00:15:18  Few people.

Prescott 00:15:18  That look very good.

Eddie 00:15:20  That'll get a rookie to step up for, Sam Williams, though.

Prescott 00:15:23  Oh, yeah. Nealon. He's got a I think I bet they sign someone or when cuts come down, they'll pick somebody up. Zimmer might pick up somebody from the Vikings. Something like that.

Eddie 00:15:33  Oh sure. Somebody he's putting out the bat bat signal. Definitely. But I think yeah I think the the drafting of a dean that high you know like when it happened. Remember during the draft I was like what the hell?

Prescott 00:15:49  I was like, who? Yeah, I didn't I was.

Eddie 00:15:52  I was why would you draft that position. No, we didn't need this. Yeah, exactly. Also yeah.

Prescott 00:15:56  Because they drafted, you know, blue chipper. Then they'd be like, well, I guess I can see why they picked that guy, but it was a who and a why at the same time.

Eddie 00:16:07  Yep.

Prescott 00:16:08  So we'll we'll keep you all up a priority camp. Nothing else be going on. No big news. The biggest news. Trayvon digs off the puppy. So little Aiden, he's on the field. He's like, that's my dad and our quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes. So, so so that's the biggest news. We should be all right. Oh, yeah. And the other bigger news, that seem to be big news for whatever reason, is the pictures of the the empty sidelines.

Eddie 00:16:38  Oh, yeah. Yeah, I said that.

Prescott 00:16:39  Nobody's there. Yeah.

Eddie 00:16:42  Like, you know, before I, before I read the, the little blip or it was like a cowboy fans or showing Jerry, you know, I don't think. I don't think collectively cowboy fans got together and said, we're boycotting the yeah.

Prescott 00:17:00  I think it was a.

Eddie 00:17:01  Lot of.

Prescott 00:17:01  Combination of things. Yeah, it was a lot. It was a combination of travel.

Eddie 00:17:04  Travel. This last weekend was pretty tough. a lot of air, a lot of airlines.

Eddie 00:17:10  Yeah. That cyber.

Prescott 00:17:12  Strike thing. Yeah, yeah.

Eddie 00:17:13  And it's hot as fuck this weekend. I don't know how how hot it is where you are, bro, but it is. So I mean, I know that it's very high.

Prescott 00:17:23  But it's been upper 90s here. It's been upper 90s.

Eddie 00:17:27  But it was pretty empty today for first practice.

Prescott 00:17:30  Everything's more expensive. Yeah, everything is more expensive. And fans really are disappointing. The Cowboys like, man, why do I keep supporting this team? Because I'm on there. Like I don't wear jerseys as much as I used to. I don't I'm not looking to buy any jerseys this year. I'm like, you know what? I'm not giving him any more money. But I'll wear the ones I have.

Eddie 00:17:53  I think when I hear people say that, I get it because everybody's got their own opinion and you spend your money the way you want to spend it, but your $200 budget, Jerry, don't give me a blink at that. You're $200 cowboy budget.

Prescott 00:18:10  But I'm going to convince a thousand people to do it. Then he'll he'll he'll take notice. Or you can just do what Eddie did and get Michael Gallup tattooed on your back. Or was it your wrist? did you get a, in memory of Michael Gallup tattoo? Show the people, man.

Eddie 00:18:25  No, I got my. Where is it that tattooed on my wrist. Got my birthday, then.

Prescott 00:18:30  Hold on. Bring it over. You couldn't see it?

Eddie 00:18:33  Shout out to my friend.

Prescott 00:18:34  There you go, Cassie.

Eddie 00:18:35  Cassie got the same tattoo. So, we, There's a meaning behind it. Michael Gallup came in. did we even talk about him retiring last week?

Prescott 00:18:46  Yeah. Yeah, we talked about him. Yeah, I said he's a future. ring of honor. And then I put him in my office right behind Michael Irvin and Dez Bryant. He would have been the third receiver if, he retired so young.

Eddie 00:19:01  Let's

Prescott 00:19:01  Let's just like we did our our our offense last week. This week we're going to do defense all time starting defense.

Prescott 00:19:09  Of course we're going to start with the defensive line. Who you got. Who's your four. Give me your four.

Eddie 00:19:14  Defensive line.

Prescott 00:19:16  Yeah let's go with defense. Yeah. We're going to start from the trenches and.

Eddie 00:19:19  Go out that I see Okay, so the way I did the lines, I just did a I did A43. So four defensive linemen, three lines.

Prescott 00:19:29  What I did for three. Yeah I did the same thing.

Eddie 00:19:32  All right. So linemen I'll go my DMs first. All right. I did Micah and Charles Haley.

Prescott 00:19:41  That's exactly what I got. No no argument with me there.

Eddie 00:19:45  I mean, you can have an argument for where, but because where it was such a fucking huge. They want to say he's a linebacker, but he wasn't a linebacker.

Prescott 00:19:53  He wasn't. But that's what I put him as a linebacker so I could put passes. And Haley in there get the that's why I put hey man no I'm putting the rules.

Eddie 00:20:02  De where if you can have three and him him subbing in for those guys, that would be it.

Eddie 00:20:08  You know at 212 Jones and and yeah, I mean there was a lot of defensive ends that you put in there.

Prescott 00:20:14  Many.

Eddie 00:20:15  Anthony Spencer I forgot about Anthony Spencer. That was.

Prescott 00:20:18  Almost Anthony. Almost Anthony. He should have had 172 sacks in his career. You think he only had 27? Oh, he was so close so many times. Oh, man, it was so frustrating.

Eddie 00:20:30  But yeah. Yeah.

Prescott 00:20:31  So we're on the same page. And just for the people, we didn't go over our list together before this. So if we say you had the same thing just because we're our minds are melded together. So yeah, I when Parsons and Haley did it.

Eddie 00:20:44  would you go for your D line for D tackles?

Prescott 00:20:48  I put I didn't see him play, but the more I looked into it and watch the highlights, I had to put him in there. Bob Lilly, I don't know if you remember him. Oh, my hell, that guy was a beast.

Eddie 00:20:58  The first guy.

Eddie 00:20:58  The first guy was ever.

Prescott 00:21:01  Ridiculous like I'm talking about. He was so, like, even for back then, he was so good. He made all pro, like, every single year. He might be the best defensive lineman we've ever had. That's how good he was based off the competition. You play.

Eddie 00:21:13  Against competition. Yeah, yeah yeah, competition. Good for the.

Prescott 00:21:16  Competition you played against. Of course Parsons would light him up or whatever. And then I went a little nostalgic and I picked Russell, Maryland. I like that guy.

Eddie 00:21:27  I picked, Randy White and Russell, Maryland. Those are my two guys. Okay, bro. Randy and Russell, he he's he comes, he's deep in my heart because. So my dad and I used to play football when I was younger. my dad would, you know, he'd be on his knees on the carpet trying to tackle me, And he was always. He was always too tall, Jones. And I was always Randy white, the monster.

Prescott 00:21:53  Look at that.

Eddie 00:21:54  The monster and the master.

Prescott 00:21:56  The monster. All right, so we're looking at for a linebacker who we like.

Eddie 00:22:02  The linebacker was pretty easy for me. I mean, linebacker and DBS are easy. I plugged them in and I didn't even think about it.

Prescott 00:22:08  It was easier than I thought. I thought it was going to be difficult because last week I was like, man, defense might be a little bit harder, but it was easier than I thought it would be. I went by where I went DeMarcus Ware, Shaun Lee and Ken Norton. Okay.

Eddie 00:22:23  The only thing that I didn't do was I put an actual linebacker there, and I put Dexter Marcus where?

Prescott 00:22:29  Dexter Coker I like that guy.

Eddie 00:22:30  I like where all he. If you I bet you you could count on his hands how many times he covered somebody.

Prescott 00:22:38  He had a pick six of Michael Vick. What are you talking about?

Eddie 00:22:41  That was all. That was because Michael Vick straight at him. Remember that?

Prescott 00:22:45  I remember he was on the line of scrimmage.

Prescott 00:22:46  He was still rushing to pass. He threw it right at him. But yeah, I remember that day.

Eddie 00:22:51  But yeah, those are my I mean, I loved it so much. It was hard for me not to put a win in that.

Prescott 00:22:58  I just want to say my honorable mentions were Brady, James and that and win that and win was was very, very good, very, very good to be undersized. And nobody really wanted him.

Eddie 00:23:09  To do that. I read his book when I was younger. He was one of my favorite linebackers in in college. Like he he went through so much in his life. He was a Vietnamese. He was in a Vietnamese man encampment in Texas. Like he lived in a camp in dirt and shit. That's crazy. And to to be able to be, to always for somebody to always tell you that you're too small and too short, man.

Prescott 00:23:37  Too small, slow, wrong race, all that. Yeah.

Eddie 00:23:40  And that's. And then he said when he.

Prescott 00:23:42  Plays in the NFL, I don't even think it's been one since him. It might be I, but I haven't heard of him.

Eddie 00:23:48  yeah. I'm some kid.

Prescott 00:23:50  Joe. young Waku. Yeah, he might be. I don't know what what race is. I'm going to look him up. Yeah, man, I think he's.

Eddie 00:23:57  I think it, but yeah. Ken Norton, Ken Norton, you can't fucking. You can't touch Ken or.

Prescott 00:24:04  Man, that dude there, he'd be right up that, goalpost every time you make it.

Eddie 00:24:09  Do you imagine being Ken Norton growing up and your dad was Ken Norton senior?

Prescott 00:24:14  Like, you can't say anything wrong. You can't say this. You can't talk. You can't talk back. You can't not do the dishes. It's like you wake up two days later. Like what happened? I told you to do those dishes.

Eddie 00:24:24  I told you, hey, wake up, wake up! Okay.

Prescott 00:24:28  So tell us why. When he wakes up, tell him.

Prescott 00:24:30  Wash those dishes.

Eddie 00:24:32  So. Yeah.

Prescott 00:24:34  but we here on Victory Formation not advocates of child abuse. Let me put that disclaimer in there. So y'all don't write us any letters.

Eddie 00:24:40  Oh, some child abuse. I mean, if they're asking for it.

Prescott 00:24:45  That's right. Where's that belt?

Eddie 00:24:47  I mean, that's the 90s. Parents nowadays know it's either the timeout or turn your turn the Wi-Fi off. Yeah. The only thing you could do. That's it.

Prescott 00:24:59  But I thought Brady James was a pretty good. It was a pretty good linebacker in his day. He wasn't a sack linebacker. He's a very good tackler and very good coverage linebacker.

Eddie 00:25:08  I look great.

Prescott 00:25:08  And Dexter Coakley was was I think that's in my eyes was a little bit better than Brady James. But Brady James was bigger and stronger.

Eddie 00:25:15  Coakley was I think they the man like me was I could see his pads come like his Pat. He didn't tie his shoulder pads. He left them. Oh yeah. So, like, it was weird.

Eddie 00:25:26  Like he could see all his chest with his pads. It was really weird, but he would knock the shit out of you as a little guy, too. But there's so many of the best.

Prescott 00:25:35  And all of them in my in my eyes was Shaun Lee. If Shaun Lee could stay healthy, he would be in the Hall of Fame. I guarantee it. He would have been in the Hall of Fame.

Eddie 00:25:43  Yeah, yeah, he was pretty good. I'm all right. So my favorite linebacker that we ever drafted was was van der esta. I love van der. Oh, yeah. Wait wait wait wait. I'm trying to take that back. It has to be, Bobby Carpenter. Oh, Bobby was talking money, but, no, it's it's it's a year old boy from Notre Dame. Mr.. Got dropped. Dropped for.

Prescott 00:26:08  Lefou. Lefou. No.

Eddie 00:26:10  Oh, no no no no. what's his name?

Prescott 00:26:12  I know you're talking about, man. I saw him on a plane when I was flying back from the Pro Bowl.

Prescott 00:26:16  We talked about what's his name, but the dreadlocks. No.

Eddie 00:26:21  Matt Dover. What? Well, I.

Prescott 00:26:22  Can't remember these people's name.

Eddie 00:26:25  Sorry. I'll look it up as we're talking about, DBS.

Prescott 00:26:29  All right.

Eddie 00:26:32  Jalen Smith there you go.

Prescott 00:26:34  The other Jalen. All right so DBS my two.

Eddie 00:26:38  So so check it out. The reason why I love him was the first time I saw him was at the Army. The Army all star high school football game. And he was trying to choose between Notre Dame and I think it was Ohio State or somebody. But he made a sack and then he did his patented where he swipes the ground.

Prescott 00:26:55  Oh yeah. That's right.

Eddie 00:26:56  Yeah. And that's the first time I ever saw that. And I was like, oh, that dude is cool, man.

Prescott 00:27:00  He was so good.

Eddie 00:27:02  And then he announced that he was going to Notre Dame, and I was like, oh, you got to be kidding me. And then he went to the I was.

Prescott 00:27:08  I was so mad at Taylor Decker, that cheap shot he put on him in the game. That man, it was a cheap shot too.

Eddie 00:27:16  Well, I, I hate Taylor Decker for having one of the hottest wives in the world.

Prescott 00:27:21  So we hate him for a multitude of reasons. Anyway, so defensive back I went. Everson walls that he was. He was a ball hawk before. Ball hawks were ball hawks like he led the league in interceptions three times. And it's like they didn't learn their lesson. They kept throwing his way. He kept picking them off. Then other than that it's Deion Sanders. Even though he only played for us for a few years, his impact was definite. Deion and Everson Walls, that was my two.

Eddie 00:27:55  He really he shut down. There's not so many corners nowadays. You can't do that with all the receivers and how the schemes are. But when Deion was playing Deon actually took half of the field away and there's not too many people that could do it.

Eddie 00:28:09  It's like if you.

Prescott 00:28:09  Weren't old.

Eddie 00:28:10  Enough to watch.

Prescott 00:28:10  It, it was insane if you if you did not like what made him so good was. It's like someone who takes, you know, like a volume shooter, like Kobe. Kobe would take 31 shots and get 35 points. Now imagine taking ten shots and still getting 30 points. That's what Dion was. He would get that many interceptions, but they'd only throw to his side of the field five times, maybe six times a game. He was still get interceptions as opposed to other players that keep getting ball thrown against them and they have more opportunities. And that's what Deion was like. He was.

Eddie 00:28:42  Saying. I remember him saying like that. He gets so bored over on that side because he goes games for anybody. He does anything on his side.

Prescott 00:28:52  Sometimes a pass wouldn't get thrown his way until the third quarter. Like that's how good he was that they wouldn't even try.

Eddie 00:28:57  He was one of the first ones to start baiting quarterbacks into thinking that she was thinking that he was.

Prescott 00:29:04  The guy, had him beat and then he would break. That's the only way he would get them to throw.

Eddie 00:29:08  That I picture, like, you know, when you go out, when you're when you're playing with your son, out in the, in the driveway the first couple times when he was real young. Yeah. And you know, he's kind of let them beat you a little bit, you know, let them make that layer.

Prescott 00:29:23  Like you're looking at the rim. And then he turned around and block us. Yeah.

Eddie 00:29:26  You try to block a shot and you just miss it on purpose. Right? I mean that's what he was doing out there is he was playing these receivers. He's like get open please I need it. Yeah. So yeah no I agree with you on Dion. But my favorite Dion story.

Prescott 00:29:41  Yeah my favorite Dion story was one. He was playing the Giants once. And we were blowing them out. And he went out. And the the his backup was getting the game.

Prescott 00:29:49  and he was playing off and he kept the guy kept throwing the backup kick in the ball court on the court. He was like, no, man, you gotta do this. This like, you know what, get out of here. Do y'all went in and got in and search on the next play because the quarterback was like he knew what was going to happen. He got interceptions the next play. I'm like, that's insane.

Eddie 00:30:05  Like anyway yeah I mean that that just goes to show right there. Like Dion's an amazing player.

Prescott 00:30:12  Yeah. He wouldn't get the 1011 interceptions. He'd get maybe 5 or 6 a year, but it's because of the amount of pass that got thrown his way. Plus he was like all world kick return or punt return. But he would go for wide receiver.

Eddie 00:30:28  It's at the point right now though because can he teach somebody what how to do that?

Prescott 00:30:33  I don't know that that was just that's pure instinct. Yeah, that's pure instinct. Like that's what I'm saying. When he baits.

Eddie 00:30:39  All these people are saying it's like he's he's going to be the next coach in the NFL. Why? How? I don't get.

Prescott 00:30:45  It. You can't teach that. Like you can't like. Oh yeah. Well so why didn't Jordan just teach people how to jump super high and hang in the air like. Yeah. And I'm like.

Eddie 00:30:54  But but bland.

Prescott 00:30:56  Bland is on his level of baiting quarterbacks, though. I like the way bland bags quarterbacks.

Eddie 00:31:01  I don't I think he'll get he'll.

Prescott 00:31:03  The only difference between him and Ryan.

Eddie 00:31:04  Gets his ass beat a lot. Don't don't even.

Prescott 00:31:07  Say. The only difference between him and Dion is bland will give up a lot of catches, but he'll make up for it in this afternoon. Dion didn't give up any catches and he made interceptions.

Eddie 00:31:15  The problem with that's why he's right now. The problem with RDB is bland and Diggs. They cannot carry a guy across the field.

Prescott 00:31:23  They cannot on crossing routes kills him. them?

Eddie 00:31:27  No. Always get to get get a catch on it.

Eddie 00:31:29  Let me tell you my on those.

Prescott 00:31:30  Outs, cause that's it. Who's that? Oh yeah.

Eddie 00:31:33  So I got, I had d on just like you did, but I did I put, I threw Diggs in there because Diggs Diggs and Everson Wall I mean Everson Walls was fucking money. I grew up watching him and loving him man. Diggs in the short period of time that Diggs has been a cowboy, He's overcome any of what our cornerbacks has done. Have done.

Prescott 00:31:54  Yeah. And, I don't know if y'all remember, it was a time when we routinely, our linebackers would lead our team in an interception. Sean Lee, let's let our team within the seventh like five interceptions one time.

Eddie 00:32:07  I remember our.

Prescott 00:32:07  Coach was so bad.

Eddie 00:32:08  We just get stuck in turnovers. Just any turnovers.

Prescott 00:32:12  One year our our DBS between DBS and safeties had two interceptions for the whole year. That's how bad.

Eddie 00:32:18  Clayborn couldn't catch and neither could Newman. Newman wasn't going to catch shit. Newman was a.

Prescott 00:32:23  Good he was a.

Eddie 00:32:24  Good cover.

Prescott 00:32:25  Corner. He was a good cover corner. But he dropped a lot of interceptions.

Eddie 00:32:30  And we went through. He was a good cover. Safeties real shit.

Prescott 00:32:33  Yeah. Oh my God we didn't. We haven't had a good safety in a while but. So who who do you have for safeties safety's?

Eddie 00:32:39  Darren was giving it to Williams.

Prescott 00:32:41  Oh, man. See, that's like. That was simple to me. Like I can think of anybody else who even came close. Maybe the goat, bro.

Eddie 00:32:48  Brock. Marion was fucking amazing. Brock. Marion. Brock. Marion doesn't get the credit that he deserves because he. Darren Watson was was so good. But Brock Marion was a ball hawk Darren Wilson would knock the shit out of you. Oh, man. The Brockmire was a ball, but I. You can't pass up Roy Williams that. They had to change rules for him.

Prescott 00:33:14  Man. Even over Jeff Heath, the goat.

Eddie 00:33:17  I mean, the goes that goes the goat.

Eddie 00:33:19  But you, if you get a rule change for you because you can't hurt people, man. Then for those who.

Prescott 00:33:26  Don't know what he's talking about, he the the the the horse collar tackle that's outlawed right now is strictly because of Roy Williams. When he broke, two leg the year the Eagles went to the Super Bowl and lost, he broke his leg. T.O. came back for the Super Bowl. But because of that, now the horse collar is outlawed. He's the reason why he's still been history.

Eddie 00:33:47  That was, a he's a hurt a lot of you, man. He. But he was he was the one.

Prescott 00:33:54  Thing he did do good was on, like, swing passes screens or just a regular run. He would hit people so hard, like you would hear it. He would hit people so hard. I don't know how you did, but do you remember.

Eddie 00:34:08  Do you remember the running back from the Giants, Brandon Jennings?

Prescott 00:34:13  Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Eddie 00:34:14  Big motherfucker was like, no, no, no.

Prescott 00:34:16  Jacobs. Brandon Jacobs. Yeah.

Eddie 00:34:19  He was like a he was the size of, like, a left guard right now.

Prescott 00:34:22  I don't know how he was a running back.

Eddie 00:34:23  And, I remember Roy Williams hitting him on the goal line and his helmet. His helmet coming off.

Prescott 00:34:31  Yeah, yeah, man.

Eddie 00:34:32  I remember I was at a bar, and I remember everybody just stopped. Like nobody would talk. As soon as that hit, everyone was like, oh, God. You can hear.

Prescott 00:34:42  It on TV. Imagine how it sounded at the game. Like, man, he would hit people so hard like a missile and he hardly wouldn't miss. That was a good thing because you come to that fast and that hard. You get a running back that can give you a little juke and, you know, you make a miss. But he hardly would miss. He was he was really good delivering that big hit.

Eddie 00:35:00  Remember when he jumped over the fucking center in college and jumped over and hit major? Yeah.

Prescott 00:35:06  I remember that, man.

Eddie 00:35:07  Boy, that was. Yeah. You can't you can't go by. You can't go bad with it.

Prescott 00:35:13  And and he dated, what's her name? Oh, you're talking about the singer.

Eddie 00:35:22  it's not Beyonce. It was Toni.

Prescott 00:35:23  Braxton. Toni Braxton. That was it. And he had man, any bag Toni Braxton. Oh, man. That's that's that's insane. Anyway, I mean Darren Woodson and Roy Williams effect, man, there really isn't no other safety I would say is like up there to where like man, all the time. It's a few good ones. But none that just stood out like those two. We had mediocre players for a long time.

Eddie 00:35:52  Since Woodson, we've been chasing safeties. We win. We don't think we drafted any.

Prescott 00:35:57  Safeties high at all. We always did like fifth round or later or pick a free draft.

Eddie 00:36:03  We drafted Patrick Watkins from I remember from Florida State.

Prescott 00:36:07  Yeah, I remember him.

Eddie 00:36:08  He was the tallest safety that in the.

Prescott 00:36:10  NFL like Martin Hanks. Yeah yeah I remember that.

Eddie 00:36:14  But I mean that's about as high as we've gone.

Prescott 00:36:18  Man. I don't think one.

Eddie 00:36:19  Guy I can't think of didn't get mentioned. And I don't know if you even know who he was, but his name was Eric. Scott case. Sorry. Scott. Case. Do you remember Scott case was. He was a white safety. he played a majority, in Atlanta. But he came to the Cowboys, and I remember, I remember Scott case because I remember we.

Prescott 00:36:37  Drafted one guy. what was his name? Something? Johnson. Matt Johnson, I want to say. Oh, and he had all the measurables the quarter.

Eddie 00:36:45  You talk about the quarterback and.

Prescott 00:36:47  The safety and and the guy.

Eddie 00:36:50  Who played safety. Oh really? Came over to the NFL. Played safety in the NFL. He was a quarterback and a receiver in the college market.

Prescott 00:36:57  And he was he and they had such high hopes for him except his hamstrings were made out of paper mache.

Prescott 00:37:03  He never played a down for us. They had him for three years. He hurt his hamstrings every single year to where he never played.

Eddie 00:37:10  What about the dude that we drafted that was a quarterback from, like, the Division two school, and we drafted him like the second round. He do you know who I'm talking about that the he was black dude. He was a quarterback. Was it Isaiah.

Prescott 00:37:25  No no not Sandbach.

Eddie 00:37:27  No no it was a stand back. I'm not talking about I'm talking Oh I'm gonna find it man.

Prescott 00:37:38  And then the guy who Dak took over Jamil Showers. Remember that?

Eddie 00:37:43  We kept saying we just kept signing him for no reason, bro.

Prescott 00:37:47  They thought, like, the year that the 2016 season, They really thought that because of course, Roman was a quarterback. He got hurt in their first preseason game against the Seahawks, and people were 100% sure it was the mill showers turn. He's about to carry us to the promised land, and the coach was like, we watch him every day.

Prescott 00:38:08  Dak is our quarterback. And then and then and then the very next season they tried to move him to defense and he never played football again. That's why you never listen to fans when they do stuff.

Eddie 00:38:18  Showers has to be like for a long time, Dallas was just we would just hold on to DB's all the time. We always for.

Prescott 00:38:30  A long time.

Eddie 00:38:31  It pissed me off because we would just hold on to people like, Anthony Brown. Oh yeah, we just held on and held on and held on.

Prescott 00:38:43  And Eddie had his way. Louis would be kicked off this team five years ago. But now you know what he was another one that they said has been doing very well in camp. He's he's fitting in very well with the Zimmer defense. Louis, I've been seeing the reports. I'm listening to the people that's there.

Eddie 00:38:59  It's this, you know, you're reading it on, Michigan Wolverines, fan club.com, and pretty.

Prescott 00:39:06  Pretty Ricky has never let me down. Pretty Ricky has never let me down.

Eddie 00:39:09  He's the. Oh, no, no, no, I don't believe.

Prescott 00:39:16  So. We never did. special teams let you want to do that real quick. Just at the top of your head. Oh, you got kicker. I bet we got the same person.

Eddie 00:39:28  Chris O'Neill.

Prescott 00:39:30  no we don't. Man, it's Lieutenant Dan. Dan Bailey. He's the best Cowboys kicker ever.

Eddie 00:39:36  Bailey. Bailey was pretty good, but he's been through pretty good.

Prescott 00:39:40  He was really good.

Eddie 00:39:42  I could pick Zendejas was fucking amazing for the Cowboys in the 80s.

Prescott 00:39:47  but but Bailey was good for a good eight years. He was automatic. And then one year he just decided, I don't want to be a good kicker anymore and you suck. But. And then he went to what was it? Was it Minnesota? And he actually did good for a while in Minnesota before he just lost it. Like as long as he because there was one time where he was better than the guy from, Baltimore Tucker. He was beating Tucker for like a 2 or 3 year stretch when it comes to accuracy and the amount of field goals.

Prescott 00:40:15  So Bailey was real good. So, I'll take him over. Bowen. You know I like Bowen too, though.

Eddie 00:40:23  I'm not going to. What about you? I think I think I think I'd pick our kicker right now, even though it's just been a year.

Prescott 00:40:30  It's only been. Hee hee hee. Missed a 33 year old yarder today. He was six for seven. He missed a 33 yard.

Eddie 00:40:36  Seven for eight yesterday.

Prescott 00:40:38  Seven for eight. Oh really? Okay. He's good. So he makes him in any game. His first. His first miss last year was the last game in the season they blocked it. So it really wasn't amiss. But then right after that he really did miss a field goal. So he he missed two all of last year both in the last game. One was a block and then one was a legit miss.

Eddie 00:40:57  It broke. It broke my heart because we did.

Prescott 00:40:59  I wanted him to end the season and I wanted him the season. Perfect man we have.

Prescott 00:41:03  And in the discord. Eddie is the Autobot Aubry. Every time he makes an extra point, he drops the photo.

Eddie 00:41:09  I gotta make a new photo this year. You do? Man. Gotta get way better. It's got.

Prescott 00:41:14  That was a very rudimentary Photoshop software. Yeah.

Eddie 00:41:20  It was just a paste on. It was like, layers, but I. Man.

Prescott 00:41:25  Get him one of those. I one of those, I thought. Yeah. Type in, type in the thing and and do it so we can drop that and then. So who you have punter.

Eddie 00:41:36  Anger I.

Prescott 00:41:38  Picked McBrayer. I picked McBrayer. Yeah I liked him because he was the absolute best at coffin corner kicks. Like he always pinned you inside the 20. Always in the corner. He was so good at that. Like it was a super power and he could boom it to like. So he had both. He had the power and he had the precision. And that's why I like him. Yeah. So, who's your, just special teamer, like, I know you want to say good win, but we're not going to.

Eddie 00:42:10  Miss a go go run straight, go straight, straight lines.

Prescott 00:42:14  Just go on the sideline and just run. Run along that line, man. Back and forth until you get tired.

Eddie 00:42:21  I don't know what I did.

Prescott 00:42:23  I picked Bill Bates, I liked him. Oh, yeah. I guess we could go.

Eddie 00:42:27  Bill Bates, as soon as you said, I would say Bill. But he was. He was a hell of a safety before he was just a special teamer.

Prescott 00:42:34  Like toward like the last 3 or 4 years was he was just Mr.. Special teams like how we have Goodwin now makes all the tackles. Bill Bates was that and he was really good at it. He was like one of the first, special team aces before they were really a thing.

Eddie 00:42:51  All right, I found him. I found the safety that we drafted. It was from Georgia Southern, and it was J.J. Wilcox. You remember him? That's it, J.J. Wilcox.

Prescott 00:43:01  That's right. He went to Pittsburgh after a while.

Prescott 00:43:04  he. Yeah, he could hit very hard. He was like Roy Williams.

Eddie 00:43:08  He could. He was a he was like a quarter. He was he had never played defense in his entire life. And we drafted. And we're like, you're going to play safety for us because we like you like that.

Prescott 00:43:17  And I don't know how he could hit so hard. It's a quarterback. Quarterbacks usually shy away from hitting. But he could hit yeah he broke someone's nose one game for the Eagles I remember that yeah.

Eddie 00:43:28  I remember that.

Prescott 00:43:30  I can't remember who it was. Was it man DeShawn Jackson Jackson.

Eddie 00:43:34  It was a he he.

Prescott 00:43:35  Hit him so hard on a crossing he broke his nose. It was it was crazy. He could hit.

Eddie 00:43:40  I say stand back.

Prescott 00:43:42  Listen to listen to last week and this week and you'll see the perfect team put our teams together, and nobody's beating that team. No one.

Eddie 00:43:51  Exactly. I mean, we got Johnny Challenge. We got both Jones coaching the special team.

Eddie 00:43:56  We got Nova Tech coach in the offense. Who you got coaching your defense?

Prescott 00:44:01  Not Novacek nor Norv Turner.

Eddie 00:44:03  I mean, not Turner who's kind of his coach in your defense man.

Prescott 00:44:11  Oh man. What's the guy who could barely walk that coach alliance to own 16. What was that guy's name? He he he was our defensive line. I mean, he was our our disciplined line coach. And then he became our coach. It was a joke, but he sucked. Hold on.

Eddie 00:44:32  I'm trying to think.

Prescott 00:44:32  Coach of mine's own 16 team. What's that guy's name? Rob Melander. Marinelli.

Eddie 00:44:41  Marinelli?

Prescott 00:44:42  Yeah. I'll never forget that.

Eddie 00:44:45  They would hustle.

Prescott 00:44:45  But they would get beat a lot. Man, I would probably say right now, I hate to say it, but it's Dan Quinn. But he needs a strong assistant because we haven't had any man. Maybe when when Mike Zimmer was here the first time.

Eddie 00:45:03  Yeah. Zimmer. Zimmer with money. Maybe it was. It had to be either Zimmer.

Prescott 00:45:08  Or if I could move Parcells to just defensive coach then I do that because Rob Ryan was terrible. Mike Nolan was the worst coach we've ever had. Rob Marinelli, he got the best out of his guys, but we didn't have that much talent and we just suck.

Eddie 00:45:26  Are you looking at a list of our decorations?

Prescott 00:45:29  No, this is from from memory. That's how traumatized I am by how much they suck. Like, I remember this off the top of my head. Dan Quinn probably had the most success. Like, I felt let down when our defense performed, like, in the playoffs against 40, I mean, against green Bay and then against some teams, like especially the Shanahan. Like he just had problems against Shanahan three guys and they tore him up.

Eddie 00:45:55  That's who it is I, I would it would be Dave Wannstedt.

Prescott 00:46:00  Oh yeah they everyone said was good. I think our best defensive guys were from way back in the day from the 80s earlier. It'll be somebody from there. We haven't had a good defensive coordinator in a while.

Prescott 00:46:11  Well, even the Super Bowl.

Eddie 00:46:14  Team was in Davis and Butch Davis and Dave Campo. Dave Campo was a good defensive. Dave Kemp, it was good.

Prescott 00:46:19  But yeah, they came up with them.

Eddie 00:46:20  He became a coach. That's where we got that, I think.

Prescott 00:46:25  Yeah, I think Campo got more pub than he should have because he had all excellent players. I mean, he had a great defensive line, linebackers, defensive backs like those players made him as opposed to him making the players. Yeah. And so I mean.

Eddie 00:46:45  That that that's more Barry Switzer ish because he.

Prescott 00:46:50  Won a Super Bowl. You're talking about Barry Switzer the best coaches ever. Jerry Jones still has that trophy Barry Sports is like man I know I want a Super Bowl. I can't find my trophy because Jerry Jones took it. Give me that.

Eddie 00:47:05  I think what you want is that guy was. goes. But then again, just like you said, she had perfect. It was a perfect storm for him. Yeah, they had perfect.

Prescott 00:47:16  And he and he, he rode that wave to, get other jobs. I think he coached the bears at one point.

Eddie 00:47:23  He never had to. He never had to play a deep, you know, try to figure out how to stop Patrick Mahomes or. Yeah, you know, or the Baltimore Ravens or. Yeah, yeah. try and stop the read option.

Prescott 00:47:38  Yeah, yeah. I mean, and people only blitz like one one out of every ten plays. It wasn't until, Buddy Ryan with the with the Cardinals was when Blitzen became a 40% of the game blitzing thing, and he the one that brought that when he was with the Jets and then the Cardinals, because before that you really just tried to get home with four. And then every 5 or 6 plays you might send a linebacker. Defensive backs never blitz. Back in the day, it was all four down linemen and maybe one linebacker might blitz every once in a while.

Eddie 00:48:12  But it just didn't. Have you had you had them blitzing.

Eddie 00:48:15  You just didn't have box safeties where they would actually play like eight man fronts. They didn't have exactly that.

Prescott 00:48:21  It was very rare because it was just like that. It was like.

Eddie 00:48:24  It was a it really was a three yards in a cloud of dust game.

Prescott 00:48:28  It was. Yeah.

Eddie 00:48:29  They should they should have had eight man box. But they did.

Prescott 00:48:31  Game has changed. The game has changed. And it's weird because and I don't know how running backs got so many yards when they were like stack the box and they knew they were going to run, they still would get 1617 hundred yards because.

Eddie 00:48:42  They were getting they were getting 400 carries a year.

Prescott 00:48:46  Yeah, they sure they weren't.

Eddie 00:48:47  They weren't throwing the ball 60 times a game. Hey. Sure, 100 plays. There was 60 runs.

Prescott 00:48:54  Except the Chargers Air Coryell. They want to air it out. Anyway, that's all we got. So that's your Cowboys defense. You can argue with us in the comments. Send us an email.

Prescott 00:49:06  But we believe we're right because we're smart. We did not consult Pretty Ricky. We did not consult Clarence or Calvin or Mina Kimes or Jane Slater. This is all us.

Eddie 00:49:18  We do have, we'll have some more camp news or some more, next week. Next week, about.

Prescott 00:49:26  One game on Thursday. So you get to. But Caleb Williams not playing. He already said the.

Eddie 00:49:30  Bears starters are.

Prescott 00:49:31  The starters are playing.

Eddie 00:49:32  Yeah still football though bro. It's like a pizza right.

Prescott 00:49:36  Still something yeah man. It's like a yeah. It's like it's like sex. Even when you have bad sex, it's still pretty good.

Eddie 00:49:46  We're gonna have, you you remember that, though? everybody remember that Prescott has lots of bad sex, and he's okay with it.

Prescott 00:49:56  My wife doesn't watch his podcast anyway, so I'm good.

Eddie 00:50:01  Your wife is like, I'm walking around right now.

Eddie 00:50:06  Next. Next week, we'll, we'll have some more news about, what's going on? we might have someone besides, I'm calling.

Prescott 00:50:13  It now. Somebody will be saying somebody be signed by next week. I'm calling it. Oh, man. I'm telling you, I'm being pretty. Ricky. This time we're signing somebody.

Eddie 00:50:22  It's like the easiest call that you can make. That's like saying I'm.

Prescott 00:50:26  Mad that they didn't say that on his.

Eddie 00:50:27  Birthday. Someone's going to be disappointed during Christmas. Yeah, of course they are. Yeah. They didn't.

Prescott 00:50:33  Sign him. Sign him for his birth man.

Eddie 00:50:36  I think Sadie's going to sign first. And then this is going to be like, boom, boom. And then we'll. Yeah. And then we'll sign up.

Prescott 00:50:45  And DNA that right then. Well all right Eddie he bought to roll on out. Horrible. How did the people tell him you love him?

Eddie 00:50:54  You know how it is, bro. Hug your kids, hug your wife, hug your loved ones. Don't go to sleep angry. We love you.

Prescott 00:51:00  That's it. Victory Formation podcast. We'll see. Our next week.

Eddie 00:51:04  Are.

Speaker UU 00:51:05  Oh. Yeah. There we go. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, there we go. Yeah, yeah. Cool bar blue. When I fall through a lot. Do not like us. How you're walking with a lion. Got me feeling like Michael I've.

Intro 00:51:31  Been on the way. The team on my bad like a biker. Shawty wanna be with a star. But you lucky if I invite you. We can take it to the next spot. The yellin like red sky. Everybody like there ain't no breaks, no rest stop. We tryna get your head chopped.

Speaker UU 00:51:43  The whole club yellin everybody. Everybody, everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody gettin alfresco poppin like Chris Goh. Livin on the.

Intro 00:51:59  Screen and team. Puttin on a big show. Diamonds make my wrist glow. Did he ever since though. Throw the light Winslow. From the wall to the window. We can take it to the next spot. The yellow light. Prescott. Everybody like there ain't no breaks, no rest stop.

Speaker UU 00:52:11  We tryna get your head chopped. The whole club yelling. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Pushing out the Palladium to pull up in the stadium. Honey.

Intro 00:52:27  In attendance, a duffle bag if they paint them. Look what blue honeys made of them. If you play and you play and I'm jumping out. The gymnasium can't be here. If you pay for it, then take it to the next spot. They yellin like Prescott. Everybody like there ain't no brakes, no rest stop. We're tryna get your head chopped.

Speaker UU 00:52:41  The whole club yelling everybody, Everybody! Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Talk back that can get you wrapped up.

Intro 00:52:55  Rolls-Royce pushing like a mack truck I can snap it. Get you quarter backed up. When you're walking with the buzz. You see it, get it packed up. We can take it to the next spot. They yellin like Prescott. Everybody like there ain't no brakes, no rest stop.

Intro 00:53:09  We tryna get your head chopped.

Speaker UU 00:53:10  The whole club yelling everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody.